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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
有些人可能没搞明白，中国观众说《尚气》辱华主要是针对选角，男女主的形象完全不符合中国人的审美价值观，有故意丑化之嫌，纵观好莱坞商业大片已至缩小到漫威电影宇宙，没有一位亚洲主演的形象有《尚气》这样差的；再是《尚气》的剧本故事，之前放出的消息，梁朝伟饰演的傅满洲是传统的辱华形象。中国观众是根据影片播出之前的消息推测、感受到《尚气》辱华，而不是观看影片后觉得《尚气》辱华，有些人还没弄清楚是非，就开始批判中国人的格局，强调中国人的国民性，是否有失偏颇？
作为首个华人漫威英雄，宽容些给到四星；三星往上是有了：
全亚裔出演，纯美式理解东方文化。除却不中不洋这个梗，我是衷心打五星的。因为，尚气的商品化太流畅了，就是一些剧情桥段的老梗都是如数家珍，仿佛这么多年形成的既定“东方美学通识”一样。奥卡菲娜老朋友了，继刘玉玲之后较眼順的亚裔演员。梁朝伟的拿捏更无懈可击。尚气加入漫威宇宙，我有什么理由去排斥一个亚裔身份的超级英雄呢。
哇又被影评骗了这哪里是一个弑父的故事。
比《花木兰》好看十倍！！爸爸妈妈对战就是《一代宗师》那段的翻版即视感哎
要说的太多就不写短评了，直接播客串台见吧。一句话：梁朝伟，世界第一的爹地。
傅满洲一系的原罪、尚气香蕉人的本质当然都是洗不干净的，但影片本身的改编还是下了工夫（估计类似僵尸世界大战的情况，改了也未必能在中国上映，但不改的话以后其他片子都休想在中国上映了），除去某些文化问题外几乎看不出什么明显恶意，在美式超英类型片里算是过得去，不掏钱的情况下可以一看。
6.6 观感高于预期，雀食在呈现东方元素上花了不少功夫。武戏调度流畅顺滑（第一幕居多），高楼战溯源成龙《尖峰时刻2》开场，充分融入动作设计之立体空间观念。文戏完成度尚可，血缘难舍，父子情仇，适度闪回下，以西方视角输出对东方传统（虽不深入）的理解。第三幕神话大战拉开格局，却不免落入漫威流水线视效轰炸之窠臼，略煞风景。多少弥补了点看《黑寡妇》时的遗憾，极力弱化工具人的意识下，伟仔与金斯利的表现仍属不凡。然它依然是隐约受cliche约束的M家出品，局部趋同于《黑豹》的倾向，警示着MCU迫切需要一部真正的破局之作。只是不知作为观众的我们，又能否见证那样一部作品的诞生？
片中所展示的一切，你其实已经看过许多次，而且还将看到许多次，着实是趣味了然。
Xialing比Shangqi更酷, 要是主角是她我觉得会更有趣，真的不想再看男英雄的电影了。
啊~十环，你比五环多五环。啊～十环，你比四环多六环。
味同嚼蜡，一会儿觉得还行，一会儿觉得就这。后半段简直拉垮到家了。虽然有弑父的情节，但人物设定也太不可信服了。越到后面越寡淡，无聊。一星半
没看出来哪里辱华了，仅仅是男女主角选角审美不符合东方审美罢了。看在他们说中文的份上我觉得也没那么讨厌了。老王的出现真是让我眼前一亮，陈法拉那么多年了还是那么好看。
尴尬是《尚气与十环传奇》给人最为直观的感触。漫威在这部电影中试图打造一位能被中国观众所认可的东方英雄，但本质上这部电影仍旧是一部带有猎奇色彩，满足西方观众臆想的东方电影，套路化的英雄模板与肤浅的文化认知，都使电影所呈现的一切让人啼笑皆非。
全片几乎没有外景自然光线，都是棚拍特效画面，明显的游戏CG质感。开场十环和映丽的打戏居然也做出旋转慢镜效果，在大罗村的景别和怪兽仅仅是勉强及格的水准。这部是近十年漫威电影里，质量最接近大陆国产奇幻电影的一次。
娱乐性很足，加州旅馆和王加大分，中西混搭很尽力了但是还是很让人恼火，中文英语一放一起就抽象得不得了
看的北美点映：
梁朝伟演得真好啊，深情和绝望都在眼神流转之中，不需要说话和动作就能传情达意。问题是，如果梁朝伟和陈法拉生出那样不好看的傻大个儿子，我们还能相信遗传基因吗？
漫威：看，这就是中国隐藏的最高战力，是不是很厉害？中国观众：谢谢，我们就是中国最高战力，冥府天庭都有党支部那种。哎。就这么点剧情还这么神奇的脑回路，本来说看着梁朝伟和帝江的份上给个三星，结果扫到私货。。。漫威第二个十年就这开局？可以洗洗睡了吧
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